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Everybody Knows My Name |
RE: Link
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! The Chief says the road can handle it?? Did anyone ask the citizens that live on this road? I can tell you, no they did not. Basically, what the Chief has said was 'we cannot keep people from driving 35 on this road, so we are just going to raise the speed limit to 35.' I will be telling the Sheffield City Council tomorrow that I will be leaving Sheffield soon. My wife and I were looking for another house to buy to get off of Hatch, and we had been looking in Sheffield, but Sheffied City Council has shown so little interest in the citizens that its decisions affect that I no longer have the stomach to live in this city. Kirk "Better to have and not need than to need and not have, because you ain't using mine" -- Senior Chief |
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whats the difference if folks are going to be driving 35 anyway? semantics?
 if you can't be a good example, be a horrible warning! |
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Mekirk, I agree! One out of every four cars on Hatch doesn't stop for the red light at Darby because they don't even notice that it exsists. We all know it takes longer to stop the faster you are going. At 35+ MPH, it will be impossible for the driver of the car on Hatch to stop even if they realize they're about to run that red light and t-bone the driver coming off Darby who has the right of way. Wonder how long until someone is killed there? People who dropve 35 when the limit was 25 will now be driving 45, monster. All you need is one car to pull out from one of those little side streets into 45mph traffic on Hatch for another horrific scenario. There are lots of little old drivers living in that area and this is going to be disasterous. Also, Hatch is in a residential area. I thought the speed limit had to be 25 mph, by law. ????. And is it my imagination or was the speed limit 30 before they lowered it? If so, the fact that they now made it 35 is irresponsible and downright scary.
This message has been edited. Last edited by: SaltyDog, "Never interrupt an adult unless you're bleeding or your hair's on fire." |
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Everybody Knows My Name |
Because of exactly what Salty pointed out. At 25, people drive 35-45, at 35, people will drive 45-55. One of the news stations came out and ran radar at the request of the citizens a few years back to demonstrate how fast people drive on Hatch, and the police did nothing then. The Chief says it will be strictly enforced? HA!! He didn't enforce 25, why should we expect any different at 35? Huguley stood in my neighbors front yard before the election and listened to a group of us voice our concerns about Hatch. We even asked about the possibility of a stop sign at 33rd to break up the traffic and slow folks down. He said that it would require a petition, then the council would have to approve, then the state would have to do a study and agree. All of this, yet all it took was the Chief asking please to get the speed limit raised. I'm going down there today to discuss it and find out which way Huguley voted on the matter after knowing the concerns of those that live on this road. Kirk "Better to have and not need than to need and not have, because you ain't using mine" -- Senior Chief |
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They need to straighten and widen Hatch. It's one of the thoroughfares to downtown. Plenty of folks I know take that route instead of going all the way to 2nd street. A 35 mph speed limit is the LEAST of Sheffield's problems. The police need to step up and clear out the drug problems over there if they ever expect the city to prosper. Kick butts and take names.
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I agree Redbull, but Sheffield government? Give a darn? Maybe in our next life. I think they should have used the money for speedbumps all the way down Hatch from Jackson to Montgomery instead of paving a small part of it. The same pavement could just as easily been lumped up and down the road as paving the samll part they did. Kirk, please report back on how WH voted. This will confirm once and for all my opinion of him. "Never interrupt an adult unless you're bleeding or your hair's on fire." |
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By all means let's slow traffic down, put in more stop signs and stop lights and even speed bumps to insure that NO ONE goes into Sheffield unless they absolutely have to.
"The only thing we have to fear is ...fear itself." FDR |
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LOL excel. That's why if they want more business and the city to come alive again they are going to have to do something to widen the road to downtown area. Four lanes in/out via Hatch; speed limit 45 mph like in Florence. |
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Everybody Knows My Name |
Hatch is not meant to be the major artery into downtown. Thats what Jackson Highway is for. Ever notice, coming from Muscle Shoals, that the sign directs traffic down Jackson Highway for Sheffied? Hatch is the shortcut because (a) there are less stops (lights, signs, etc) then Jackson Highway and (b) the speed limit is not enforced.
It is part of public record (I have the minutes in front of me right now) that all council members voted yes for the increase in speed limit. According the the paper, the chief pushed it, but I've been told it was the administration. The clerk recommended all who are concerned attend the next planning meeting on the 15th of Decemeber to voice our concerns on the situation. Personally, I am working on pulling the accident reports for Hatch (if I can get them.) My next door neighbor was rear ended twice pulling in his driveway on Hatch, I know a woman was rear ended pulling onto 33rd from Hatch, one neighbor had a drunk hit his car in his driveway accross the street and his next door neighbor had a police chase end a few years ago in her front yard, the guy hit a tree in their yard and he was ejected and landed on her carport. But Hatch can supposedly support an increase in the speed limit?!? Once I have as much as I can get, I don't think a trip to the council will be my first stop. I think the TV news station that did the piece on the speeders on hatch last year will be the first folks I speak to about this and see if they would like to attend the session as a news piece. Kirk "Better to have and not need than to need and not have, because you ain't using mine" -- Senior Chief |
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Everybody Knows My Name |
No, Hatch is a better route because it is more convenient. Hatch is a residential area. And I don't understand why its not a school zone either. Hatch is a 'short cut' and that is not what the traffic flow planning had it designed to be. There are no businesses on Hatch for traffic flow to pass by, thats all on Jackson Highway. The money needs to be spent on making Jackson Highway the preferred route so all those cars that use the Hatch shortcut will actually pass by the businesses and possibly stop and spend their money there. Widing Hatch will not help bring any more money to Sheffield, unless all us residents set up yard sales on the side of the road and Sheffield makes their money on our yard sale licenses. The money comes in by getting the folks passing through to pass by the businesses and stop and shop at them. As for the accidents, no, widing and straightening won't fix that either. Reducing the traffic flow in a highly residential area is all the will fix that issue. A wider and straighter road will not make the idiot behind you pay any more attention to the fact that you are turning in your driveway! Kirk "Better to have and not need than to need and not have, because you ain't using mine" -- Senior Chief |
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I wonder if there is some way to meet in the middle.
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Other than a couple of antiques stores, the recording studios, little grocery store, and a methadone clinic what business are on Jackson? When I go to Sheffield, I usually headed to the 'downtown' area. Montgomery Place, Ritz, the pawn shop, etc. I also like to fish from the park area once in awhile and don't particularly like to drive around in a big circle wasting gas. Sheffield might want to rezone some of the residential areas on Hatch as well. Small business owners may be interested and it might help clean up the area. Like I said Sheffield's biggest problem is cleaning up the drugs and rift raft and than getting the city in shape.
Oh and Idiots are everywhere. A speed limit isn't going to stop one from rear ending you. Period. |
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Everybody Knows My Name |
New businesses locate where they can be seen. It's called free advertising. That's why traffic counts are so important to an area. Get the traffic count up on Jackson Highway by moving some of the Hatch traffic to Jackson. This type of thinking is what brings new businesses to Sheffield. Why do you think there are so many businesses along Woodward? And, BTW, go to Google Maps and type in Mcdonalds on Jackson Highway as the from and The Ritz Theatre in downtown as the to and click 'get directions.' It says to take Jackson Highway, that its 2.3 miles and takes 6 minutes. Now, drag the green route from Jackson Highway to Hatch Blvd. Now it says it takes 2.3 miles (WOW, NO GAS SAVED THERE!) and takes 9 minutes. This is because it is the SAME DISTANCE as your around the world method and the speed limit is lower! So, if Hatch is a shorter to you, it is probably because you are one of the people I am complaining about doing 45 in what used to be a 25 zone! Because it is no further to take Jackson Highway. Kirk "Better to have and not need than to need and not have, because you ain't using mine" -- Senior Chief |
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Redbull, how do you propose they widen and straighten Hatch? That's progress?
Where's the justification for that as far as the expense vs return? Accidents will be prevented on Hatch when people who drive get off your a** and understand that it is in a residential area and other drivers will be frequently turning off into their neighborhood or driveway (which may be on Hatch Blvd) Jackson Hwy needs the work. The poles need to be set back and the street repaved. mekirk, how many times have you almost been hit turning into your house? Almost everyday right? |
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