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Some doctors DO usurp wishes of family members....

My father had a bad reaction to an anesthesia he was given during surgery and failed to wake after several days in the hospital. They wanted to discharge him anyway back home (he lived with us and I didn't want him to be admitted to a nursing home after he left the hospital- I wanted to be with him 24/7). I was my fathers durable POA and asked that he be given a feeding tube or NG tube for me to administer fluids, nutrition and the antibiotics he was being given IV in the hospital to fight the pneumonia he acquired there to give his body more time to process the anesthesia to see if he would eventually wake up and start taking things by mouth again and was REFUSED by the doctor (who never asked about a living will, btw) as my father had a history of dementia and was "terminal". Instead, he was discharged with an ORAL prescription for antibiotics that he had no way of taking (much less any kind of nutrition or hydration) and he started worsening within 24 hours of discharge and died about a week after came home. Cause of death was pneumonia. Maybe even with nutrition, fluids, and continued antibiotics he would have died, but I'll never know. Pneumonia was the official cause of death. It was the most horrible time of my life, watching this, and it took several days for him to pass. Doc, I hope you're reading this. I'll bet you thought you were safe, but I'm still deciding whether or not to sue your sorry self. You're not out of the woods yet.


I think you should check your legal options. The doctor should have worked with you on this matter.


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I have first hand experience on this subject. Two doctors went against my mother's power of attorney and continued to give her a certain medicine after the family requested it to be stopped because of the harm. One doctor told me the facts face to face on how this Palliative Care is carried out with a patient. My intent with this information is to inform & protect elderly & sick people. No one has the right to end a life! No family member or doctor!


If they refused to comply with a Medical Power of Attorney, they should be reported and investigated.

My brother and I had a few run ins with our mother's doctor from time to time. Sometimes they do try to persuade you to do something they disagree with. This guy was lucky my brother did not "punch him out" on one occasion, he was being so rude.


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Just an FYI for those who don't know - a Medical Power of Attorney is different from Durable Power of Attorney. It authorizes the person to make medical care decisions regarding a patient. The Durable Power of Attorney is for taking care of paying bills, checking accounts, property, etc.

Also, make sure your loved ones sign the form at the doctor's office (don't remember what it is called) and hospital authorizing them to release information about their health to you. Otherwise, by law, they cannot release any information about their care to you.


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Shoals hospital has some of the best and most caring nurses you will find anywhere, they should all be commended. The care you receive there is as good if not better, than you will receive anywhere. As for MRSA and UTIs, they are at all hospitals, and MRSA is also a community acquired infection.


I TOTALLY agree with you Sunny. I've had the unfortunate hospital stays at each Hospital in our area.

Shoals' nurses, were BY FAR the nicest, attentive, and made my stay there as pleasant as it possibly could have been.

ECM and Keller, although probably do have some nice nurses, during my stays there, I didn't meet them. I had rude, lazy, or griping nurses at each. Perhaps I was just had bad luck, and got the bitter ones? I don't know, but every nurse I encountered at Shoals on each shift, treated me like I was part of the family.

I'd hate to see that hospital close, or see those awesome nurses split up, or having to seek out a new job. Frowner Thoughts are definitely with them.

~Amanda



 
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Salty I too am so sorry about your loss, but please do not feel that every physician out there is like that.
It truly would be a shame to lose Shoals Hospital, especially with that railroad track seperating the major intersection from the HKH. We are blessed to have three good hospitals in our area. ECM and HK are each different types of hospitals and both offer good quality care. Luckily we have a cardiovascular surgeon in the area, and a group of talented doctors who can perform invasive cardiac medicine if the need arise. We also have many good surgeons and excellent nurses and I do not want to see us lose them to another area beacuase jobs are lost.
The "staff" (actually it is staph) problem is a common urban legend around here. I know about 10 years ago of a staph probelm which circulated thru the community. I have seen the data from the local hosptials and the "staph problem" is not in the hospitals, it is in the community. We see it here, like everywhere else, but people are not "catching it" at the hospitals. They either come in with it, or get it from someone who is carrying it. And yes you can carry it and not even know it. Some hospitals want to start culturing every person who comes in and treat them, but inreality when they leave the hospital or are visited by a friend or relative they in all likelihood will get it back. Labeling one hospital and saying they are the root cause of a local staph epidemic is ludicrous and does no one any good.
Every hospital in the Shoals is routinely examined by inspectors from the state and federal levels, and both receive levels of excellence in patient care.
I would not hesitate to have myself or my family treated in either hospital in the area or by the physicians who practice there.


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The doctor told me face to face they do not treat the patient for a cure. They stop all needed medications for any illness the patient has at the time. They give the patient either Haldol, Thorazine, or Serequel (anti-psychotic drugs) with morphine. This combination will cause a medical coma (respiratory depression). They will stop all liquids and food. In 7-10 days the patient will die. Question: Why do doctors who are not trained in psychiatry prescribe anti-psychotic drugs to patients with incurable diseases?
I do the research and get the facts! This is all linked to the cost of health care. Hospice agencies lose money if a patient lives longer than 6 months. ALso, it costs approximately $75,000 to $100,000 to keep an Alzheimers patient in a nursing facility. Can Medicaid and Medicare afford these medical bills? NO!
The Medical Liability Act of 1987 makes it very hard to hold doctors responsible for their actions, therefore, as citizens we must inform the public and make them aware of what is going on in the medical community.
The doctors who made the anti-psychotic drugs in the 1950s stated that they cause brain damage. (Psychiatrists: Jean Delay & Pierre Deniker) Do your research!
 
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I really do not know what your personal bitterness is towards palliative care,but your ignorance is showing moreso each time you make a post on these forums concerning the subject.
I posted to you on page 2 of this thread challenging you to provide the proof you "claim" to have. Do you even know what medical coma or respiratory depression are?
 
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still waiting for that "proof" you claim to have.
 
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If Dr Jack Mclendon and the others want to leave I say leave the Shoals area completly.
Get out and stay out. Leaving Church sets the standards....
 
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I have first hand experience on this subject. Two doctors went against my mother's power of attorney and continued to give her a certain medicine after the family requested it to be stopped because of the harm. One doctor told me the facts face to face on how this Palliative Care is carried out with a patient. My intent with this information is to inform & protect elderly & sick people. No one has the right to end a life! No family member or doctor!




dn_byrs, This may help explain.

What’s the Difference Between Hospice & Palliative Care?

American hospice service started with the Connecticut Hospice in March 1974. Today, there are over 2,884 Medicare-certified hospices, and an additional 200 volunteer hospices in the U.S., with as many as 1.5 million Americans seeking hospice treatment in recent years. As a program designed to facilitate “palliative” care for terminally ill patients and their families—many people wonder, what then is the difference between hospice and palliative care, or are they one in the same? While palliative care addresses patients with life-threatening illnesses, anyone—regardless of life expectancy—can receive this type of care. Hospice, meanwhile, provides for patients who can no longer benefit from regular medical treatment, per a doctor’s determination, and are in the last stages of a terminal illness. Hospice and palliative care share the philosophy of maintaining and managing the patient’s quality of life.

Read more click link. http://www.gilbertguide.com/2008/02/11/whats-the-differ...and-palliative-care/
 
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Just an FYI for those who don't know - a Medical Power of Attorney is different from Durable Power of Attorney. It authorizes the person to make medical care decisions regarding a patient. The Durable Power of Attorney is for taking care of paying bills, checking accounts, property, etc.

Also, make sure your loved ones sign the form at the doctor's office (don't remember what it is called) and hospital authorizing them to release information about their health to you. Otherwise, by law, they cannot release any information about their care to you.



Autumn, thanks for pointing out the difference. I was actually both for my Dad. People do need to know they're not the same and they are two separate documents.
 
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dn_byrs
still waiting for that "proof" you claim to have.



Hey, give the lady a break will you? She lost her mother for crying out loud. Geeezzzzeee. Educate her but don't come down on her because she's naive. You people are rude.
 
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If Dr Jack Mclendon and the others want to leave I say leave the Shoals area completly.
Get out and stay out. Leaving Church sets the standards....
 
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I really do not know what your personal bitterness is towards palliative care,but your ignorance is showing moreso each time you make a post on these forums concerning the subject.
I posted to you on page 2 of this thread challenging you to provide the proof you "claim" to have. Do you even know what medical coma or respiratory depression are?




She may not be a doctor or a nurse or have anything to do with medical knowledge like you. That's the way you come across, rude and keep aggravating the situation. I think this lady is suffering from the loss of her loved one and I think you could be a little bit considerate. If you are a doctor or have anything to do with the medical profession, please warn me because I sure as hell wouldn't want anyone like you taking care of me.
 
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I have no idea what woman your referring to and I don't care. The post I have replyed to is
"GROUP OF DOCTORS LEAVING THE SHOALS HOSPITAL."
Get off your high horse and don't reply to me. And if I was a doctor and I knew who you were I'd let you die or give u something to promote it.
 
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