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Originally posted by Top Down Beemer:

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Originally posted by meanasasnake:
Gun huggers are always living in fear that some elusive boggie man will come and take your rifle away preventing you from shooting rabbits or deer. Of course celebrity "spokesmen" pander to such fears, get paid and become "heros". What a shame the constitutional right to DISAGREE (dissent)and freedom of speech is not held with the same regard as that of gun ownership. Mr. Hestons great contribution to the NRA would not have been possible WITHOUT his Hollywood background. One "contribution" facilitated another. I fail to see how dislike for a celebrity spokesperson makes one a "sniveling coward". Sounds like some people are a little touchy, and a bit irritable. Perhaps a little overzealous. Do a background check at once.

Gun huggers? Yeah, okay...I have been known to snuggle up to my .45 when I was in the house alone at night. It makes a pretty nice bed mate too.

Your complete disconnection from reality is sad and frightening. This "elusive boogie man" you speak of is neither elusive nor a boogie man but are the libtard politicians and their rabid supporters who would like us all to believe that GUNS are the problem with society today and that their REMOVAL will immediately result in a peaceful utopia where we'll all sing kumbaya and get along famously. It's a gigantic crock of b.s. Gun ownership is the last protection WE (and by WE I mean law abiding citizens) have against our government getting TOO "protective" of us. As long as I have my gun, I can and will protect myself and I don't require anyone to do it for me. The ONLY people who will in any way benefit from gun control legislation are those who don't obtain their firearms through legal means to begin with. In other words, CRIMINALS. And in case you haven't been paying attention lately, they are getting away with more and more these days thanks to our increasingly politically correct legal system and the "it's not my fault" defense. Like good old Charlton said, you will take my guns from me when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

Are you finished with your little rant?

In case you missed it - we have gun control laws and will continue to have them. The other thing you clearly miss is that as with ALL sensitive subjects there are extreamists on every side of EVERY issue. I think there is a need for some gun regulation in the United States. It is unreasonable to expect that there NOT be. As a point of reality - such laws exist and will continue to exist. Now, Guess what? I keep a hand gun in my nightstand for personal protection. No problem for me. Still, I support background checks, regulations for sales over the counter, through mail order and through internet sales. I also do not think convicted criminals/felons should legally own guns. Expecially wife beaters - they have proven historically to be dangerous gun owners. All the hysterics about gun regulations is carried too far by both sides. Its political and over played by virtually every angle. As for prying the gun from your "cold dead fingers" - I don't give a ****. I don't want your little friend. I have a gun of my own.

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I remember watching his movies when I was a little girl. You know, when they would advertise it for weeks to come and you would plan a family night around it with popcorn and everything...back before DVDs and "on demand" etc...He was a great actor and I liked him even before he became more involved in politics and what not...I didn't join the NRA because of him though -- I did join the NRA to insure my gun rights, but I paid more attention when he was the President...I had a lot of respect for him. He used his celebrity in a good way in my opinion...I think Hollywood lost a legend today...

Here are some of the political activism Mr. Heston was involved in.

From wikipedia:

Heston campaigned for Presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson in 1956 and John F. Kennedy in 1960. When an Oklahoma movie theater premiering his movie was segregated, he joined a picket line outside in 1961. During the civil rights march held in Washington, D.C. in 1963, he accompanied Martin Luther King Jr. In later speeches, Heston said he helped the civil rights cause "long before Hollywood found it fashionable."

In 1968, following the assassination of Senator Robert F. Kennedy, Heston appeared on The Joey Bishop Show and, along with fellow actors Gregory Peck, Kirk Douglas and James Stewart, called for public support for President Johnson's Gun Control Act of 1968. He opposed the Vietnam War and said he voted for Richard Nixon in 1972.

By the 1980s, Heston opposed affirmative action, supported gun rights and changed his political affiliation from Democratic to Republican. He campaigned for Republicans and Republican Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush.

Heston resigned from Actors Equity, claiming the union's refusal to allow a white actor to play a Eurasian role in "Miss Saigon" was "obscenely racist." He said CNN's telecasts from Baghdad were "sowing doubts" about the allied effort in the 1990-91 Gulf War.

At a Time Warner stockholders meeting, he castigated the company for releasing an Ice-T album which included the song "Cop Killer", which depicted the killing of police officers.

According to his autobiography In the Arena, Heston recognized the right of freedom of speech exercised by others. In a 1997 speech, he rhetorically deplored a culture war he said was being conducted by a generation of media, educators, entertainers, and politicians against:

"...the God fearing, law-abiding, Caucasian, middle- class Protestant-or even worse, evangelical Christian, Midwestern or Southern- or even worse, rural, apparently straight-or even worse, admitted heterosexuals, gun-owning-or even worse, NRA-card-carrying, average working stiff-or even worse, male working stiff-because, not only don’t you count, you are a down-right obstacle to social progress. Your voice deserves a lower decibel level, your opinion is less enlightened, your media access is insignificant, and frankly, mister, you need to wake up, wise up, and learn a little something from your new-America and until you do, would you mind shutting up?"

In an address to students at Harvard Law School entitled Winning the Cultural War, Heston said, "If Americans believed in political correctness, we'd still be King George's boys - subjects bound to the British crown." He went on to say that white pride is just as valid as black pride or red pride or anyone else's pride. He later stated, "Political correctness is tyranny with manners."


Heston accepting a presentation rifle at 2000 NRA convention with the now well-known exclamation "From my cold, dead hands!"Heston was the President and spokesman of the NRA from 1998 until he resigned in 2003. At the 2000 NRA convention, he raised a rifle over his head and declared that the Bill Clinton administration would take away his Second Amendment rights "from my cold, dead hands." In announcing his resignation in 2003, he again raised a rifle over his head, repeating the five famous words of his 2000 speech. He was an honorary life member.

In the 2002 documentary film Bowling for Columbine, Michael Moore interviewed Heston in his home, asking him about an April, 1999 NRA meeting held in Denver, Colorado, shortly after the Columbine high school massacre. Moore criticized Heston for the perceived thoughtlessness in the timing and location of the meeting. Heston, on-camera, excused himself and walked out on the interview. Moore was later criticized for his perceived ambush of the actor.

Actor George Clooney joked about Heston having Alzheimer's Disease. When questioned, Clooney said Heston deserved whatever was said about him for his involvement with the NRA. Heston responded by saying Clooney lacked "class," and said he felt sorry for Clooney, as Clooney had as much of a chance of developing Alzheimer's as anyone else.

Heston opposed abortion and gave the introduction to a 1987 pro-life documentary by Bernard Nathanson called Eclipse of Reason which focuses on late-term abortions. Heston served on the Advisory Board of Accuracy in Media, a conservative media watchdog group founded by Reed Irvine.

You are SO right DixieChik. When all of the true Hollywood legends are dead we will have lost something that can never be regained. I don't think there are too many left either.

The big name "stars" today know nothing about how to be good citizens in addition to being actors and actresses. Most are totally selfish and immoral, breeding like rabbits and then moving on to the next bedmate before the sheets are cool. The days of class and style in Hollywood are truly gone.

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Originally posted by Top Down Beemer:
You are SO right DixieChik. When all of the true Hollywood legends are dead we will have lost something that can never be regained. I don't think there are too many left either.

The big name "stars" today know nothing about how to be good citizens in addition to being actors and actresses. Most are totally selfish and immoral, breeding like rabbits and then moving on to the next bedmate before the sheets are cool. The days of class and style in Hollywood are truly gone.

Right you are Beemer.

Fascinating - yet another angry white guy. How unusual and opportunistic.

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Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
The mere fact that you can engage in the sort of written diarrhea that you continue to inflict on the rest of us is proof of the strength of the first amendment.

Seem like you've pulled up the pot next to us to squirt away!

Oooh. A typical "I'm rubber, you're glue" type of response.

I guess one man's written diarrhea is another's prose? Such superiority!

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Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:
Oooh. A typical "I'm rubber, you're glue" type of response.

Yours an intellectual and most poignant response as well. Actually your colorful verbage resulted in the original offense. Thankfully the damage was minimal and the insult easy to ignore.

Heston served in the Army Air Force in WWII as a sergeant in the Aleutians -- a truly miserable place.

He was a classically trained actor appearing on Broadway, TV and the movies. There was a standing joke that he was the only American allowed to play an englishman in england.

I've seen clips of him marching with MLK. But, because he also supported the NRA, all the left can do is call him a nasty man, rejoice in his affliction and rejoice in his death.

A great gentleman and actor is deal. We truly see the nature of his enemies as vile creatures of the gutter.

I put this on the other thread about this, but I'll repeat it here.

He was a pretty cool guy. He had a longer life than most & from all I understand, a good one. I guess it's the romantic in me, but it was nice to see an actor with a very long marriage.

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Originally posted by Howard Roark:
Heston served in the Army Air Force in WWII as a sergeant in the Aleutians -- a truly miserable place.

He was a classically trained actor appearing on Broadway, TV and the movies. There was a standing joke that he was the only American allowed to play an englishman in england.

I've seen clips of him marching with MLK. But, because he also supported the NRA, all the left can do is call him a nasty man, rejoice in his affliction and rejoice in his death.

A great gentleman and actor is deal. We truly see the nature of his enemies as vile creatures of the gutter.

Don't understand the nature of "enemies" very well do you? Having a nasty, adversarial position in American politics is not the soul purview of the left. I refuse to accept the insult with a smile or extended hand. Mr. Heston took a political position and often used insulting language towards his adversaries. The fact that he has died need not negate his words or their effect. I doubt he would wish any thing else. I did not view him a hero, or even a gentleman. Simply an actor.

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Originally posted by _Joy_:
I put this on the other thread about this, but I'll repeat it here.

He was a pretty cool guy. He had a longer life than most & from all I understand, a good one. I guess it's the romantic in me, but it was nice to see an actor with a very long marriage.

They don't make men like that anymore -- as evident by a lot of the comments on this thread...hope people have as much respect for some of them when they pass on as they have shown for him...

Amazing how hero worship denies the existance of flaw, or even the possibility that such worship is not universal or could possibly be subjective. Almost as amazing is the inability to determine the sex of posters.